Answering a liveaboard question
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 at 20:34 Every now and then we get some questions sent in through this website, and I like to answer them publicly, as to hopefully help out others. Check this one out (some identifiable information has been removed):
Message: Hey kids, wow you are really livin the dream. Awesome!. I'm originally from S.D. and am planning on moving home soon. I really want to purchase a boat and liveaboard. Honestly, I don't know the first thing about it, but the idea has been simmering for a couple of years now. OK, questions.....How big of a boat do I need to be comfortable for two people to live on. Can you tell me if 36' is manageable single handed or with two? Is a boat that size big enough for serious open ocean cruising? I was thinking about getting a slip in the south bay (for price and availability), what do you think? What am I realistically looking at for monthly expenses? Water fill ups? Emptying holding tank? Sailing lessons (I think I will need them). Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Your boat is beautiful btw.....
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"How big of a boat do I need?" This is a very personal question, and it's sort of like "how big of a home do I need"? Just like some people are happy living in small homes, others feel that massive ranch homes are essential to their happiness. But, since this is my blog, I'll give you my answer: 28-38 feet, mono hull. Again, there are a lot of people (many of whom are better sailors than I am) with smaller and larger boats, this is the number that I'd go with. Smaller boats are easier to manage, cheaper, more common, and more simplistic. As a boat gets bigger, so does your ground tackle, rigging, engine, etc.
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"Is a boat that size big enough for serious open ocean cruising?" It's about your sailing skills, 100%. A larger vessel will offer you somewhat better protection, but at the same time, in the hands of a poor sailor, a big boat will work against them and turn into an uncontrollable machine.
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"What am I realistically looking at for monthly expenses?" San Diego is probably the most expensive harbor in the United States, and Point Loma (where we are) is probably the most expensive of San Diego. South Bay is a bit cheaper, but it's still pretty brutal. Again, the bigger the boat (length overall, from barbecue to bowsprits), the bigger the tab. We spend about $1,100 a month for our slip, which includes our slip, a marina storage unit we share with some neighbors, and our electric bill. Beyond that, you can obviously dump as much money as you like into your boat. Expect some pain in the first few months, as you get hit with deposits, probably a new paint job, some needed repairs, immediate customizations you want, and most importantly you won't really be making the best financial decisions since you'll be a new boat owner (ex: buying everything from West Marine). A good estimate is that you'll spend about 10% of the purchase price of your boat, every year, on regular maintenance. It's a good rule of thumb. So for a $30,000 boat, you'll spend $3,000 on maintenance.
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"Water fillups". Most slips have hoses on a pedestal, which is where your electricity, phone, and most likely TV connection is located.
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"Holding tanks". Most marinas have pump out docks nearby, or roller kits you can borrow, so you can pump out in our slip if you so choose.
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"Sailing lessons". J-World would be my choice, and a one week course will set you back $1000 or so. Also, you can look at some international schools, such as this one in South Africa. That might seem a bit extreme, but the wind in San Diego is usually "... wind variable, 10 knots or less...". If you go to a place that's notorious for rough weather, like San Francisco Bay, you'll get some really solid experience. Also, for free (and maybe you can even get paid a bit), you can sign up to crew on some boats. You'll get a lot of good experience, and a lot of them are fine with you not knowing anything: just ask the skipper before. If you do what you're told, are intelligent, and are good company, they'll usually be fine with someone without much knowledge, especially if it's an easy run.
Well, hopefully that helps, and I'm glad you find our boat pretty! Next week we're pulling the spar, and I'm getting ready to spend more than I'd like on maintenance and repairs. Gulp!
I would summarize by saying that owning a boat is a very consuming process. It will eat up your time, energy, and money. If you're not really into it, you'll begin to hate the boat: we see a lot of that down here. The important thing is to keep having fun, and balance the boat with your life. You're buying it to enjoy your life more, and it's important to always put your own happiness over the vessel. That happiness, again, is the reason you got the boat in the first place.
Sure, replacing the head wasn't exactly a blast, so you're going to have some times on the boat that are really gnarly, but that's just life. Just make sure that overall, you're enjoying things, and that you own the boat, and the boat doesn't own you. If you keep the equation balanced out properly, you won't go into a multi month hate-the-boat-a-thon that leaves you with a feeling of resentment.
To that end, I'd make sure you hang out with other boat people that have a good attitude. It's immeasurably valuable to be able to socialize with other people that are in your situation. Some of the most calming moments I've had during this adventure have been from talking to other people who are having the same problems that I am.
Good luck, and make sure you document your adventure. If I had to do it all over again, I absolutely would.
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